NYC Gifted and Talented Program and Testing


NYC Gifted and Talented Test Results

The time has arrived for OLSAT and NNAT-2 test results to be released!

Earlier this week parents across all five boroughs were disappointed or elated depending on the scores they received for their talented tot who took the NYC G&T test in January 2018.  Parents across Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, Bronx and Staten Island have tons of questions about the city wide programs and district wide programs. Here are questions that parents are asking themselves and others after receiving the test scores:

  • My son scored a 98th percentile on the NYC gifted and talented tests. Do you provide advice on the quality of specific G&T school programs?
  • My child scored 99th percentile, which gives him a chance for lottery at any of the five city-wide G&T schools. I think the fact that my child has an older sibling in one of the five city-wide G&T school almost guarantees him a spot at that school. However, if I rank other city-wide G&T schools (without sibling priority) before this city-wide G&T (with sibling priority), will that hurt his chance of getting into the G&T with sibling priority (if he didn’t get a spot in other city-wide G&T)? In other words, do I have to rank the city-wide G&T first to be sure that he will at least get into one of the city-wide? (1 of 2)
  • Will you provide a little bit more information on the five city-wide in terms of their respective strength, focus, advantages, etc.? ( 2 of 2)
  • My son scored a 98th percentile and has no siblings so will not get into citywide gifted program. Can he go to a district G&T not in our district?
  • How do placements for the District G&T programs work? Do the kids who score 97 and above have priority over those who score in the 90th-96th percentile?
  • My daughter scored in the 95th percentile. Any sense of her chances of getting a District placement?
  • Would a sibling of a current District G&T program who scored less than my daughter have higher priority than my daughter for such program?
  • What are the chances of a child with a score of 97 getting into a citywide program?
  • I would like to know what happens if you have accepted a placement in your district G&T school and then move during the summer months. Are you then able to get a seat in September at your new local district G&T school or is it just tough luck from that point on?
  • What should be the next step? My child got a 95th percentile
    •  Can I apply to any school, in any district with a 99, or just schools in my district and schools designated as “citywide” schools?
    • Does the overall score matter for applications or do they look at how many correct out of tested questions child got correct? For example, do they look at 99 percentile or 36 out of 40 correct?
  • How do we tour the schools if the deadline for choosing top choices is so near?
  • Question: if my child qualified for citywide can he apply to any district wide g&t or is he limited to a g&t in his district?
  • We are in district 2, and wanted some feedback on schools in district 2 (or even other districts) and chances of him getting offer being at 98th percentile. He doesn’t have sibling, and being at 98 we feel getting into 1st grade is bit difficult given than schools offer very few seats for new 1st graders.
  • I’m interested in the details of the lottery process. Is it done at each school? If so, since each applicant can select multiple schools and there’s an order which shows preference, how is that handled.
    • Based on this year’s numbers, would a 97 percentile child without sibling priority have any chance at all for a citywide G&T program?
    • Would a 97 percentile child without sibling priority have any chance at all for a district gifted program without district priority (program not within the district where the child resides)?

Here’s a good article that answers many of the questions above and more!



Teaching risk taking part of school success at NEST
October 4, 2017, 5:49 pm
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The principal at NEST encourages students to take risks of failure

The trend continues throughout the city and the rest of the US to encourage kids not only to take risks but also encourage kids in the experience of failure. It seems the pendulum has swung swiftly into the other direction from everyone gets a trophy for just showing up to encouragement of risk taking which in turn leads to failure. NEST is the latest example of incorporating this type of teaching throughout the school to it’s 1,700+ student population. Here are a few of things that have been introduced at NEST+M to create a culture of perseverance of fail and try again and students seem to be responding.

  • The library is equipped with 3-D printers and laptops to transform the way students work and interact within a library setting.
  •  Students have their own publication using a popular software product called InDesign. The students select all the writing passages and the artwork that are within the magazine.
  • Instead of traditional methods of teaching to younger grades, the school utilizes student’s talents to give talks and presentation on a variety of topics.
  • In the middle school program the students are taught robotics and this teaches both computer programming and math skills with this specific program.

Most schools today are still slow to adapt to these additional skills that are impertative for all students to learn. Many parents are familiar with teaching a child “grit” which helps a child with perseverance and passion for the long-term and not short-term satisfaction. These are the types of things that seem to be finally entering our schools and helping kids to feel less entitled than their previous not-so-grateful millennials.  Here are a few tips that parents can help their child at home to develop grit:

  • Instead of praising your child that he or she is “smart”, rather focus on the child’s hard work or effort to finish or complete a task (i.e. homework, reading a book, working on a challenging project, etc.)
  • Most parents don’t want their child to experience any frustration. Believe it or not, frustration your child experiences leads to a sense of achievement that a child needs to successfully accomplish a task. None of like to wait but having your child experience frustration is a pathway to long term success.
  • When your child fails congratulate him or her! Ask him or her how they feel about the failure and what might they change next time to make sure they aren’t going to fail again. It’s a good lesson for parents to teach although it’s difficult for some parents to have this conversation with their child.


Unrest at NEST Gifted and Talented Citywide School
October 4, 2012, 3:53 pm
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Well, according to a recent article in Gotham Schools there is much unrest at NEST gifted and talented citywide school located on the lower east-side of Manhattan.  I thought that Gotham Schools was a site that did fact base journalism but it seems they’ve decided to ride the wave of becoming the gossip rag for NYC schools. I’m not one to complain about trash-journalism since this is the kind of juicy stuff all parents (like me!) love to read – especially when it comes to one of the most high-demand public school G&T programs in New York City.  Here are the highlights of the article:

  • Principal Olga Livanis had not soothed relations with the staff after she surprised several of them with “unsatisfactory” ratings. My translation: A principal finally stands up for something other than the teachers unions and gives teachers failing evaluations which may or may not have been deserved.
  • Teachers “boycotted” Curriculum Night where parents come to hear all about what their children are expected to learn this year. Teachers demanded “overtime” to attend this session. My translation:  Teachers once again try to prove a point at the expense of the children and at the expense of parents who are highly engaged with their children’s education.
  • Parents are blaming the administration for all this chaos.

Of course, all of this is speculation on my part. I do find it very interesting that all the NEST+M Gifted and Talented dirty laundry is now being aired across all 5 boroughs. Unfortunately, the big losers in this situation are the students. We’ll see if demand decreases next year for this G&T program based upon the unrest at NEST, but I doubt it