NYC Gifted and Talented Program and Testing

Breakdown of Gifted and Talented test scores by district

Results by each district for NYC Gifted and Talented Program

Looks like water in district two produces the smartest kids in the city with districts 30, 30 and 31 not too far behind! Boy, these kids in NYC are so smart or maybe prepped to the max for the OLSAT and NNAT2 tests.

Here is the breakdown of scores for kids entering kindergarten in fall 2018.

s = less than 6

Applying for Kindergarten Fall 2018
District Citywide and District Qualifier (Scored
District Qualifier Only (Scored 90‐96) Ineligible
Totals 1,559 2,100 10,791
1 18 32 128
2 346 347 1,022
3 131 171 538
4 7 10 102
5 15 12 152
6 25 44 233
7 s s 71
8 s 9 166
9 s 8 127
10 18 33 400
11 10 28 369
12 s 9 108
13 58 93 325
14 24 41 136
15 100 138 542
16 s 7 70
17 15 25 207
18 s 14 174
19 s 11 140
20 95 134 719
21 88 77 362
22 150 97 580
23 s 7 78
24 58 107 523
25 69 149 528
26 60 114 451
27 24 24 329
28 85 112 551
29 13 33 343
30 78 119 634
31 45 86 618
32 s s 65



Totals For ALL Grades entering K to 3rd Grade in fall 2018
District Citywide and District Qualifier (Scored
District Qualifier (Scored 90
Ineligible Testers
Totals 3,122 5,912 23,482 32,516
1 49 102 291 442
2 699 852 1,875 3,426
3 246 347 803 1,396
4 13 25 195 233
5 26 40 290 356
6 45 80 422 547
7 s 13 160 175
8 12 43 421 476
9 9 49 379 437
10 43 122 877 1,042
11 35 148 929 1,112
12 7 19 273 299
13 109 167 525 801
14 47 110 298 455
15 210 357 1,039 1,606
16 8 21 134 163
17 30 59 471 560
18 9 30 347 386
19 7 31 301 339
20 212 439 1,652 2,303
21 141 206 790 1,137
22 216 297 1,442 1,955
23 s 15 130 148
24 112 359 1,392 1,863
25 136 416 1,243 1,795
26 158 370 972 1,500
27 41 104 721 866
28 178 344 1,261 1,783
29 38 103 896 1,037
30 179 357 1,451 1,987
31 94 272 1,366 1,732
32 8 15 136 159


NNAT test score distribution
April 13, 2013, 2:07 pm
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If you look at the NNAT test score distribution for all the kids who took the test going into Kindergarten for 2013 it’s way off compared to what it should be with the predicted distribution. As you can tell, many more children scored in the 90th to 96th percentile than what would be expected in the distribution. What does this tell us about the NNAT-2 test results? Well, a couple of things are possible culprits:

  • 4 year olds in New York City are just plain smarter than the rest of the nation when it comes to gifted and talented testing therefore NYC needs it’s own distribution curve and raising the qualifying score needed for the gifted and talented program.


  • Parents are preparing their kids so they receive a much higher score than the same children would if those same children weren’t prepared.

Sites like Testing Mom  recently reported their members children on average scored in the 96th percentile. So, the question remains is it something in the New York City water that’s making these kids score higher than the rest of the kids in America or is it going into the test more prepared compared to other children their same age that don’t live in NYC?

NNAT distribution

Chart from: The School Boards web site

Gifted and Talented Test Results Released
April 10, 2013, 10:14 am
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Well, the wait is over for thousands of NYC parents as the gifted and talented test results were released this past Saturday. Some parents had to wait until Sunday before they received the email from the Dept of Ed. Many parents were disappointed as their darling child got in the 89th percentile as the image below indicates. I know has been slammed with questions from New York City parents about their child’s scoring. Testing Mom had an emergency tele-seminar this past Sunday where they answered all the questions from parents who just received their test score.

test results nyc gifted talented

With the new NNAT test added there was speculation that many less children would receive a 99th percentile. This actually is true but still many more children scored in the 99th percentile than are available seats for the citywide G&T programs.  This leaves all the 97th and 98th percentile children with no chance of getting a citywide seat even though the technically do qualify for one.

nyc gifted test results 2013

Here’s an email a NYC parent received from the Dept. of Ed. when asking about their child’s test score:


Dear <PARENT>:

Thank you for your inquiry about your child’s G&T score report- it was nice speaking with you on the phone yesterday. In your email, I noticed you used a combined weighted average of your child’s nonverbal and verbal percentile rank scores to calculate the overall percentile rank.  As you will see below, this was not the method used to score the G&T assessments.

The New York City Department of Education (DOE)’s Gifted & Talented (G&T) testing vendor scored the assessments using raw scores, normalized standard scores based on age, and percentile ranks for the Naglieri Nonverbal Abilities Test (NNAT-2) and the verbal Otis Lennon School Ability Test (OLSAT-8).

Your child’s raw scores show the number of items your child answered correctly. There were 48 total test items on the nonverbal NNAT-2 and 30 total test items on the verbal OLSAT-8. Since the NNAT-2 and the OLSAT-8 are two different tests that were administered together, the raw scores for each test needed to be placed on a common scale in order to determine percentile ranks. This type of score is called a normalized standard score, and is shown on your child’s score report as NAI (nonverbal standard score, for the NNAT-2) and SAI (verbal standard score, for the OLSAT-8). The use of standard scores like the NAI and SAI is standard practice in testing for ability and intelligence, especially in young children.

Your child’s score report also showed two types of percentile ranks: the domain percentile ranks and the overall percentile rank. The domain percentile ranks are separate scores that correspond to the NAI and the SAI, respectively. Your child’s overall G&T percentile rank determines whether he is eligible to apply for district and citywide G&T programs. The NAI counted for 65% of the overall percentile rank and the SAI counted for 35% of the overall percentile rank. These weighted standard scores, not the domain percentile ranks, were then combined to generate your child’s overall G&T percentile rank score.

I hope this answers your questions. Please do check the G&T website regularly for the most up to date information on this year’s G&T process.

New York City Department of Education Office of Academic Policy

So, what’s next? The school tours have begun and there’s really no standard process for that either. It varies from school to school so check the gifted and talented school you are interested in touring and find out the process. Some you will have to register online while others you’ll have to call on the phone to register for a school tour. The deadline for G&T applications is next Friday, April 19, 2013 which must be submitted online by midnight.

NYC Gifted and Talented Test Results

Well, the department of education has officially announced the NYC gifted and talented test results will be released tomorrow by 9am (Saturday, April 5, 2013).  I suppose the Saturday delivery is to give parents the weekend to digest the results and to reduce the number of angry parents calling in to the DOE.

Here’s the email that was sent to parents earlier today:

Subject: Gifted and Talented Application Update
Date: April 5, 2013 3:53:22 PM EDT

Dear Parent/Guardian:

Gifted & Talented test results will be mailed to families today. If you submitted the Request for Testing form online, you will receive an email on Saturday by 9am, which will allow you to log in to the online site ( to see your child’s results, and if eligible, begin the Gifted & Talented application for placement.

If you have any questions, please contact us at 718-935-2009.


Gentian Falstrom
Director, Elementary School Admissions


It’s nice they are sending the test results before the school tours that begin this Monday.  Next week will be crazy for all the gifted and talented schools in NYC who will now have to accomadate tens of thousands of parents wanting to tour their schools. The deadline for the application is Friday, April 19, 2013 so parents only have less than 2 weeks to figure out the best fit for their child and cross their fingers for their first choice!

With the new NNAT-2 test coming into play this year it will be interesting to find out if fewer students score in the 99th percentile compared to previous years. Stay tuned on those details.

NYC Gifted and Talented Test Results
March 15, 2013, 2:56 pm
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Well, the countdown has started for the NYC gifted and talented test results! According to the NYC department of web site the test results will be released in April. According to the site the test scores will come out in April and the applications are due by April 19.  This most likely means parents should find out the scores some time in early April.  Since there’s no sibling preference change many parents who already have children in the NYC Gifted and Talented program can breath a sigh of relief since the sibling preference from the past is still in place.

As you know, my daughter is in the gifted and talented program at PS 33 Chelsea Prep in district 2. All I can say is that this program at PS 33 is simply amazing. Our daughter is now in 3rd grade and we have really seen tremendous academic excellence over the years since Kindergarten.  Stay tuned as we all anxiously await OLSAT and NNAT test results.

Also, I’ve heard from several parents who made it through the second round at Hunter Elementary and got accepted to Kindergarten this fall. Congrats to all the parents who made it through this treacherous process and no matter if your child made it into the Hunter or not, I’m sure you’re relieved the entire process is over.