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Testing Mom Facebook Live the other night received tons of questions from parents about NYC gifted and talented test results that were recently released.
The folks over at TestingMom.com hosted a very informative Facebook Live the other night for frantic NYC parents who just received the test results for their talented tots. These parents all seemed to be the lucky ones whose children made a score high enough on the NNAT-2 test and OLSAT test to qualify for a coveted seat into one of these elite kindergartens in New York City for the 2017-2018 school year. It seemed that all the parents on the Facebook Live feed were happy since they were asking about what schools were the best and bragging about their gifted girls and brilliant boys throughout the hour+ session on Facebook. Here are a few of the many questions that the New York City parents were spouting throughout the session:
- I called the kinder doe hotline and was told that admissions to district gifted and talented is based on lottery. The G&T handbooks however states that they go by the score. So confused.
- Given your experience what are your thoughts on PS 33 Chelsea Prep G&T? Seemed like a very large school. Do you feel it is luck of the draw based on your assigned teacher?
- Our son scored 97th percentile, our one in district school with a gifted and talented class isn’t so great. being in the 97th percentile, how good are his chances at a better district school with a G&T class?
- Do you know anything about District 22 G&T schools in Brooklyn? Our son’s overall score was 92 and his current school has a G&T program but I was told by a parent that he needed to score in the 99th percentile to get in.
- We are in District 14, and there is only one G&T Program, once you are under 97%, how do they decide placement in district-wide, is it a lottery and is it worth exploring districts outside your own? Any thoughts on PS 132?
- My older one is in citywide G&T school at TAG. The younger one is District G&T program already. Last 2 years she got 96. Is there any chance to get in TAG as sibling preferences. By the way, the younger one will be in 3rd grade next year.
Filed under: NYC Gifted and Talented Program, OLSAT Test | Tags: hopeorgnyc, nnat test, NYC Gifted and Talented Program, OLSAT test
The non-profit HOPEorgNYC helps prepare kids for the gifted and talented test in New York City. Jill Goldstein, founder of @HOPEorgNYC, founded the non-profit in 2015 due to the lack of participation of students in lower-income areas of NYC who take the NYC gifted and talented test for children entering kindergarten through 3rd grade. The mission of this group is to lessen the divide within the gifted and talented program in New York City. HOPE meets with students every Saturday morning from September through January to help them prepare for the upcoming NNAT and OLSAT tests.
Over the years, it has been evident that the NYC gifted and talented program skews to more Caucasian and Asian students vs. African American and Latino students. The population of gifted and talented students based upon race is disproportionate to the racial population of the city. According to the NY Times, this racial segregation within the schools begins as early as pre-K and then really manifests itself going into kindergarten with the gifted and talented program.
HOPE plans to even out the playing field within district 10 in the Bronx where the program meets at the local library every Saturday to help local students prepare for the test. Their goal is two fold: help the kids succeed on the the G&T test and to do well in school.
Here are students who have benefited from the wonderful work HOPE is doing in the Bronx. The kids thank TestingMom.com for giving them test prep materials and for sponsoring the HOPE team.
Well, it looks like the kids in New York City aren’t the only ones taking the OLSAT test for admissions into gifted programs. Out in California, there’s a program in Davis called AIM which also uses the OLSAT test for admissions into their gifted program. According to the article, it looks like 10% of the third grade students (56 out of 543) who took the OLSAT test scored high enough to be in the Davis School District’s AIM program.
As with the NYC Gifted and Talented test, the scores seem to be skewed in favor of children of Caucasian and Asian descent with very few Latino and African-Americans being represented as those who qualified. The Davis school board is now questioning if the OLSAT test is the right type of test to qualify kids for this particular gifted program in Davis. This has also been the ongoing debate in NYC where the NNAT-2 non-verbal test was introduced a few years ago but the outcomes of the the distribution of qualified students by ethnicity have remained virtually unchanged (mostly white and Asian and very few Latino and African American students).
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Well, it looks like one of the unforeseen consequences of the NYC universal pre-K program is that it causes more talented tots to qualify for a seat in the ultra competitive NYC gifted and talented program. According to a study in Educational Researcher 4-year-olds who attend a preschool are 4.8 times more likely to get a qualified score for the competitive NYC G&T program. The findings shouldn’t be very surprising since early education initiatives would have a direct impact on not only overall performance but also how the child takes direction from a teacher. Since the OLSAT test requires listening from the child, any child who is in pre-K would have an advantage by more likely having to develop listening skills since they are in a classroom setting. Hopefully by all children attending universal pre-K in lower income areas these children will now be able to perform better on the G&T test. Plus parents in these areas will be more likely to know about the NYC gifted and talented program since the pre-K teachers will hopefully tell parents about the program.
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Due to Super Snow Storm Jonas the NYC Gifted and Talented Testing has been cancelled this weekend. I suppose it’s a good thing for parents who haven’t done any preparation and allows them more time to start practicing with their little ones with questions from TestingMom.com. Tons of practice questions for both the OLSAT and NNAT-2 tests.
Here’s what the DOE said on their web site regarding the test being canceled this weekend:
The Office of Student Enrollment welcomes you to Gifted & Talented Admissions!
Testing is cancelled for January 23 and 24, 2016 due to the weather. If you were scheduled to test on January 23 or 24, you will be contacted this coming week about rescheduling your test. Please email questions about your student’s test to the email address listed on your appointment letter. You can email firstname.lastname@example.org with general questions about G&T testing.
Filed under: nnat test, OLSAT Test | Tags: gifted and talented test, nyc gifted talented admissions, ps 144 queens
Well, a district wide gifted and talented school in Queens screws up big time! It all started with parents at the PS 144 in Forest Hills who received a letter from the school that their child will be taking the test that week for the gifted and talented program. The letter informed the parents their child will take the OLSAT tests and BSRA (Bracken School Readiness Assessment). One problem, the DOE phased our the BSRA test 4 years ago and replaced it with the much more difficult NNAT-2 test. Below is a photo of the actual letter parents received from the school that really screwed up on this one.
To add insult to injury, according to parents, who contacted the school about the test, the parent coordinator who answered the phone abruptly said in a curt manner “Whatever is on the letter are the tests that are going to be given!”. I suppose the school was bombarded with phone calls from frantic parents who were confused and even more confused after the school verified their worst nightmares coming true! So much for the person who answered the phone to do a 5 second Google search to find out which test is currently being given to students. Maybe they were too busy watching reruns of Dance Moms online?
After months (and some times years!) of test prep will their talented tot now be required to take another test that they haven’t prepared for? Imagine these poor moms and dads who are stressed out to the max and then finding this out the same week the test was to be administered. It’s like a high school student preparing for the SAT test for months and then 48 hours prior to test day being told “Sorry, it’s actually the ACT test.”
After a few days of confusion in Forest Hills the principal, Reva Gluck-Schneider, finally broke down and reluctantly admitted to the error of their ways. This, of course, is after scores of parents kept calling and asking questions. Wow…a DOE employee admitting they were wrong? Is that in the union contract? You can read the entire drama in this DNA Info article.
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Testing Mom hosting free seminars for NYC parents to review the NYC Gifted and Talented Admissions and Testing this week! These seminars are free but you need to register to attend (links below).
Here’s what you’ll learn at the seminar:
- The various tests given to children for gifted and talented programs in New York City
- Learn about the NNAT-2 test and OLSAT test that’s used for admissions into the New York City G&T programs
- Prepare your child for testing without “prepping”
- Shy child? Find out how to help a shy child overcome testing anxiety.
- Easy and fun things you can do at home to help your child prepare for testing
- Live questions and answers from the audience.
You can register here: