Filed under: NYC Gifted and Talented Program, OLSAT Test | Tags: district wide gifted programs, nyc gifted talented, nyc gifted talented test score
Hi Testing Mom,
My 4-year-old son stands no chance of getting accepted into one the gifted and talented citywide kindergarten programs since he scored in the 95th percentile. I thought he’d score in the 99th (I’ve been told by numerous people how smart he is), but I suppose he just isn’t as smart as everyone thought. I’m very disappointed in him because he said the test was easy after he came out of the testing room…although I now blame myself and feel like a horrible mother because I didn’t sign-up for your program until after I received his scores so we can start practicing for next year’s test. I heard about you from several parents last fall and their kids made 98th and 99th percentiles but I thought I could do it on my own without any outside help…boy, was I wrong. He did so well on the 10 questions provided in the handbook from the Dept. of Ed. but they probably only put easy questions in their handbook so parents don’t feel they need to prepare. Even after using your program for just the past couple of days since I received his scores I have discovered the areas he needs to focus on. If I only knew then what I know now things might have turned out very different.
My stomach turns every time I look at his score on the test and I’m trying not to hold a grudge against him – after all, he is only 4-years-old. I know some parents would be so happy with a 95th percentile, but now I wish he would have bombed the whole test instead of being on the cusp.
M.L. – mom in Flushing Queens – NYC
Wow, this mom is what I’d call hardcore but I suppose it’s a typical response from some parents in New York City when the harsh reality sinks in. I hope this mom doesn’t give up on her son and it sounds like she’s wanting him to take the test again. I’m sure he’ll do better next year and hopefully score in the 99th percentile so his mother once again will be proud to have him as her offspring.
Filed under: nnat test, NYC Gifted and Talented Program, OLSAT Test, OLSAT test prep | Tags: nnat2 test, nyc gifted talented, OLSAT test
Well, tens of thousands of tots begin the annual pilgrimage to get tested for the New York City gifted and talented program. The testing takes place on the weekends for the pre-K students at a local public school and for those kids in kindergarten to second grade take the test at their school during the day. Nervous parents across the city are vying for coveted spots in the most competitive kindergarten race in the world. Last year, over 1,900 kids qualified for the city-wide gifted and talented program for kindergarten at schools like NEST+M and Anderson for only 250 available seats between all five city-wide gifted and talented programs. It’s just like the lottery, if you don’t play you can’t win so make sure your child takes the test because your child may be one of the lucky ones to get one of the 250 available seats in the ultra competitive city-wide program. Luckily, there’s always the district wide G&T programs so that opens up more available seats to parents who kids score in the 90 to 99th percentile on the NNAT2 and OLSAT tests. So much for the simple life in New York City for these parents and their little ones who have no idea of the massive consequences if they do not score well on these tests.
Filed under: naglieri test, nnat test, OLSAT Test, OLSAT test prep | Tags: nyc gifted talented program
New York City Dept. of Ed has released gifted and talented handbooks the upcoming testing seasons that starts in January, 2015! The DOE is hosting information sessions in all 5 boroughs (dates and locations below). Registration for the NYC G&T test opens online next Wed., Oct. 8th so there’s nothing to do until then (except of course start practicing with your child!). After a quick review of the handbooks it doesn’t look like there are any major changes to the admissions process from last year. The OLSAT and NNAT-2 tests are still given to our talented tots to qualify for a seat in the gifted and talented program in New York City.
Here are the details on the info. sessions hosted by the NYC Dept. of Ed. Please note these information regurgitate the same information that’s contained in the handbook.
High School of Fashion Industries
225 West 24th Street, Tuesday, October 14 6:00 – 8:00 PM
Clara Barton High School
901 Classon Avenue, Wednesday, October 15 6:00 – 8:00 PM
P.S. 69 Daniel D. Tompkins
144 Keating Place, Thursday, October 16 6:00 – 8:00 PM
Theodore Roosevelt Educational Campus
500 East Fordham Road, Tuesday, October 21 6:00 – 8:00 PM
Forest Hills High School
67-01 110th Street, Wednesday, October 22 6:00 – 8:00 PM
The folks at Testing Mom (the site where you can get free OLSAT and NNAT practice questions) are hosting seminars in late October for parents in NYC! These seminars will tell you information that the DOE won’t or can’t!
Filed under: common core test, nnat test, OLSAT Test | Tags: anderson school, common core test results, Lower Lab, nest school
Well, it’s not gifted and talented but it might as well be! The New York state common core test results were released last week! And guess what? Only one-third of the students in the entire state passed the test and a little less for the city of New York. This is slightly above last year but still a very low percentage of the students passing.
Here’s a quote from Board of Regents Chancellor Merryl H. Tisch (for the state of New York)
“Statewide, the percentage of students scoring at the proficient level and above in math rose from 31.2 to 35.8 across all grades combined.”
State Education Commissioner John B. King, Jr. said:
“The percentage of students scoring at the partial proficiency level and above also rose in math, from 66.9 to 69.6 percent.”
In English Language Arts (ELA), the percentage of New York students scoring at the proficient level rose one-tenth of a percent, from 31.3 to 31.4 percent, across all grades combined (3rd through 8th grade).
So, what does this have to do with the OLSAT test and the NNAT-2 test for the New York City Gifted and Talented Program. I suppose nothing directly but it is interesting to see how the dreaded “common core” has become a thorn in the side of so many schools, teachers and principals. On the flip side, some of the G&T programs in NYC scored extremely well on the common core test. Here are the test scores for Anderson, Lower Lab and NEST. All three of these programs have an entire student population gifted and talented. It seems the staff, principals and teachers at these three schools were conspicuously silent when it came to the protest from teachers and principals earlier this school year when it came to the common core. Maybe because their students did so incredibly well on these very difficult tests? Maybe the lower performing schools within NYC should take note and realize that having practically every student pass the common core test is possible.
Click on images below to enlarge. Please note, 4 is the highest score and any score of 3 or 4 is considered passing. 1 or 2 is below average or failing.
Looking for common core practice questions or OLSAT and NNAT questions? Go to Testing Mom and get some now (for free)
Filed under: OLSAT Test, OLSAT test prep, Stanford-Binet | Tags: aabl test, nnat-2 test, nyc gifted talented, OLSAT test
Summer is almost over and AABL testing begins. So long WWPSI and hello AABL! The new test given to preschoolers vying for a spot in the most competitive private school kindergartens in New York City. This new test, called the AABL, is just another one to add to the array of tests given to 4-year-olds in the most competitive city the world. Depending on where you live and what schools you are interested in your child attending your child can take up to 4 tests! I suppose that’s one test for every year they have been alive. Here’s the breakdown:
- OLSAT test – given to preschoolers for entry in the NYC gifted and talented program from the New York City Department of ed. A child get retake the test every year up through 2nd grade if they don’t qualify.
- NNAT-2 test – this is also given to preschoolers for entry in the NYC gifted and talented program from the New York City Department of ed.
- Stanford-Binet test – this is given to kids who are applying to Hunter College Elementary School gifted program
- AABL – the test formerly called the ERB (aka WPPSI) given to kids applying to kindergarten private schools in NYC.
I know, it’s enough to make your head spin but I suppose it’s just part of the vetting process where every parent must decide what’s best for their child and their particular situation.
You can get lots of free sample questions for the AABL test at TestingMom.com
Filed under: nnat test, OLSAT Test | Tags: nyc gifted test scores, testing mom
The scores are in! It seems many NYC parents are distraught with gifted and talented scores received by their talented tot. According to Testing Mom (the site with thousands of practice questions for the OLSAT test and the NNAT test).
Obviously, these comments from parents are way out of line and very concerning. Testing Mom said she doesn’t condone or approve of these comments but wanted to give people an idea of how intense some New York City parents get when the G&T test scores get released. I feel bad for the poor kids of these parents as some of these comments are just plain mean!
- “I thought my son was well prepared for OLSAT test from the few practice questions provided by the Dept. of Ed. How did he get score of 48? I am so disappointed in him and as a mother. I started practicing with him today but now have to wait another year.”
- “I think my son has ADHD, if only I put him on meds prior to this test he would have been able to sit, focus and As the verbal section. He did so awesome on the nonverbal score. Trying to figure out what wrong. ”
- “He scored 88th percentile which is ok but still disappointing! I’m trying not to look at him differently but it’s hard not to right now. I thought he was so smart but now I realize he’s just average like his father (my ex).”
- “I’m shocked at how our child could have scored so low on the OLSAT and so high on the NNAT-2 test but since signing up on Friday I can see how. We thought she’d breeze through the verbal OLSAT test but now I know better.”
My jaw dropped (literally!) after reading these comments from parents but I suppose they were being honest about their feelings. I hope they get over the initial shock quickly and start supporting their child emotionally.
Filed under: cogat test, OLSAT Test | Tags: cogat test prep, nyc gifted talented program
Many New York City parents want to know “What is the CogAT test?” Although the OLSAT test and NNAT-2 test are the two tests for gifted and talented admissions the CogAT is actually much more popular and widely used across the US. The CogAT, standing for Cognitive Abilities Test, is absolutely not an IQ test. Instead, it’s a test designed to assess a student’s cognitive capabilities like the OLSAT and NNAT exams. These capabilities are not traditional learned knowledge like reading and math. Rather, they’re natural skills which can be shaped and sharpened, but not taught in school.
The purpose of the CogAT test is to assess how cognitively developed a student is at different points during their academic career. While the CogAT does not test intelligence, experts believe that there is a strong link between highly developed cognitive abilities, high academic performance and high intelligence.
Here’s an sample question that a child can expect on the CogAT test. As you can tell, it’s very difficult!
The CogAT test has three main portions:
- non-verbal reasoning
These are believed to be the areas of cognitive thinking which relate most closely to academic performance. The above example of CogAT practice questions are from Testing Mom (the site with 100 free practice questions).
Since cognitive abilities are a natural gift, the CogAT has been designed in several versions. This makes it applicable to students of every age, from kindergarten and 1st grade all the way through senior year of high school. Read more about CogAT