NYC Gifted and Talented Program and Testing

Who should take the NYC G&T test and why
May 25, 2018, 5:02 pm
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Who can take the test!

New York City serves the needs of exceptional students by way of the gifted and talented program. Though each program varies in terms of curriculum and materials used by the teachers, they all are aligned with the New York State ELA and math standards (aka Common Core).  The test is absolutely free so what do you have to lose? The G&T test results are confidential and your child’s teacher won’t even know if he/she took the G&T test nor the score. There’s no indication in the school file as to scoring the child makes on the test. The results are the sole determining factor when it comes to placement in the gifted and talented program. So many kids score in the 99th percentile there are no guarantees a child will get a seat due to the shear volume of applicants. Your child needs to be a current resident in one of the five boroughs in New York City who currently attends pre-K through 2nd grade. Even if your child attends a charter school or private school they are eligible to take the G&T test as long as they are a resident.  The G&T program is open to any student with a disability and welcomes all students in accordance with their IEP (individualized education program).


Over 80% of parents who think their child is gifted are correct!

Myths about gifted education
May 12, 2018, 12:36 pm
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Let’s separate fact from fiction for NYC gifted and talented programs

There are many myths floating around New York City about the gifted and talented program so let’s set the record straight!

  1. Gifted children cannot teach themselves. TRUE!
    • Even though many gifted and talented students are ahead of their peers the role of a certified gifted teachers is crucial for the child’s success in school. Just like a professional athlete needs a good coach to reach his/her full potential a gifted student needs the same kind of coaching for a teacher.
  2. Gifted students not only learn more quickly than other students, they learn differently. TRUE
    •  The vast majority of classroom teachers for general education have no training in teaching highly advanced students. In many cases, teachers are often unable to recognize and support gifted learning without specialized training. Many advanced learners are so far ahead of their same-age peers that they know much of the curriculum for their grade as soon as school begins in the fall. They also learn new concepts quickly and unfortunately, must wait for their classmates to catch up.
  3.  Average or below-average students do not look to gifted students as role models. TRUE
    • Most students model their behavior on those who have similar capabilities and are coping well in school. Watching those who are expected to succeed does little to increase an average student’s self-confidence. Gifted students respond to and benefit from classroom interactions with their academic peers so that’s why it’s so important for a child to be surrounded by peers who learn at the same pace and level as each other. This is what the NYC gifted and talented program provides the students.
  4. All children have strengths and positive attributes but are not all gifted in the academic sense of the word. TRUE
    • The label “gifted” is a loaded term and if you ask 100 parents you’ll get 100 different definitions! Let’s face it, ALL children are gifted BUT not all children are academically gifted and have the advanced  learning capabilities for specific subject areas, or in the performing or fine arts compared to others his or her age or grade.

Find out more about the signs of a gifted child. 

Breakdown of Gifted and Talented test scores by district

Results by each district for NYC Gifted and Talented Program

Looks like water in district two produces the smartest kids in the city with districts 30, 30 and 31 not too far behind! Boy, these kids in NYC are so smart or maybe prepped to the max for the OLSAT and NNAT2 tests.

Here is the breakdown of scores for kids entering kindergarten in fall 2018.

s = less than 6

Applying for Kindergarten Fall 2018
District Citywide and District Qualifier (Scored
District Qualifier Only (Scored 90‐96) Ineligible
Totals 1,559 2,100 10,791
1 18 32 128
2 346 347 1,022
3 131 171 538
4 7 10 102
5 15 12 152
6 25 44 233
7 s s 71
8 s 9 166
9 s 8 127
10 18 33 400
11 10 28 369
12 s 9 108
13 58 93 325
14 24 41 136
15 100 138 542
16 s 7 70
17 15 25 207
18 s 14 174
19 s 11 140
20 95 134 719
21 88 77 362
22 150 97 580
23 s 7 78
24 58 107 523
25 69 149 528
26 60 114 451
27 24 24 329
28 85 112 551
29 13 33 343
30 78 119 634
31 45 86 618
32 s s 65



Totals For ALL Grades entering K to 3rd Grade in fall 2018
District Citywide and District Qualifier (Scored
District Qualifier (Scored 90
Ineligible Testers
Totals 3,122 5,912 23,482 32,516
1 49 102 291 442
2 699 852 1,875 3,426
3 246 347 803 1,396
4 13 25 195 233
5 26 40 290 356
6 45 80 422 547
7 s 13 160 175
8 12 43 421 476
9 9 49 379 437
10 43 122 877 1,042
11 35 148 929 1,112
12 7 19 273 299
13 109 167 525 801
14 47 110 298 455
15 210 357 1,039 1,606
16 8 21 134 163
17 30 59 471 560
18 9 30 347 386
19 7 31 301 339
20 212 439 1,652 2,303
21 141 206 790 1,137
22 216 297 1,442 1,955
23 s 15 130 148
24 112 359 1,392 1,863
25 136 416 1,243 1,795
26 158 370 972 1,500
27 41 104 721 866
28 178 344 1,261 1,783
29 38 103 896 1,037
30 179 357 1,451 1,987
31 94 272 1,366 1,732
32 8 15 136 159


Gifted and talented test results 2018 vs. 2017
April 25, 2018, 1:52 pm
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The results are in for the NYC gifted and talented testing for children taking the test in January 2018!

The test scores seem to be consistent year over year when comparing 2018 vs. 2017 data.

Here are the results from this testing from January 2018

  2018 Test Results for OLSAT and NNAT2 Tests
Entering Grade Tested Ineligible District
Eligible Only
% District Eligible
Citywide Eligible %
Citywide Eligible
Total 32,516 23,482 5,912 18% 3,122 10%
Kindergarten 14,450 10,791 2,100 15% 1,559 11%
First grade 7,866 5,544 1,572 20% 750 10%
Second Grade 5,587 4,019 1,183 21% 385 7%
Third Grade 4,613 3,128 1,057 23% 428 9%



Here are results from last year’s testing in January 2017


2017 Test Results for OLSAT and NNAT2 Tests
Entering Grade Tested Ineligible District Eligible
% District
Eligible Only
Citywide Eligible %
Citywide Eligible
Total 34,902 24,905 7,014 20% 2,983 9%
Kindergarten 16,582 12,115 2,858 17% 1,609 10%
First Grade 7,714 5,505 1,618 21% 591 8%
Second Grade 5,714 3,870 1,469 26% 375 7%
Third Grade 4,892 3,415 1,069 22% 408 8%

Source: NYC Dept of Ed.

NYC Gifted and Talented Test Results

The time has arrived for OLSAT and NNAT-2 test results to be released!

Earlier this week parents across all five boroughs were disappointed or elated depending on the scores they received for their talented tot who took the NYC G&T test in January 2018.  Parents across Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, Bronx and Staten Island have tons of questions about the city wide programs and district wide programs. Here are questions that parents are asking themselves and others after receiving the test scores:

  • My son scored a 98th percentile on the NYC gifted and talented tests. Do you provide advice on the quality of specific G&T school programs?
  • My child scored 99th percentile, which gives him a chance for lottery at any of the five city-wide G&T schools. I think the fact that my child has an older sibling in one of the five city-wide G&T school almost guarantees him a spot at that school. However, if I rank other city-wide G&T schools (without sibling priority) before this city-wide G&T (with sibling priority), will that hurt his chance of getting into the G&T with sibling priority (if he didn’t get a spot in other city-wide G&T)? In other words, do I have to rank the city-wide G&T first to be sure that he will at least get into one of the city-wide? (1 of 2)
  • Will you provide a little bit more information on the five city-wide in terms of their respective strength, focus, advantages, etc.? ( 2 of 2)
  • My son scored a 98th percentile and has no siblings so will not get into citywide gifted program. Can he go to a district G&T not in our district?
  • How do placements for the District G&T programs work? Do the kids who score 97 and above have priority over those who score in the 90th-96th percentile?
  • My daughter scored in the 95th percentile. Any sense of her chances of getting a District placement?
  • Would a sibling of a current District G&T program who scored less than my daughter have higher priority than my daughter for such program?
  • What are the chances of a child with a score of 97 getting into a citywide program?
  • I would like to know what happens if you have accepted a placement in your district G&T school and then move during the summer months. Are you then able to get a seat in September at your new local district G&T school or is it just tough luck from that point on?
  • What should be the next step? My child got a 95th percentile
    •  Can I apply to any school, in any district with a 99, or just schools in my district and schools designated as “citywide” schools?
    • Does the overall score matter for applications or do they look at how many correct out of tested questions child got correct? For example, do they look at 99 percentile or 36 out of 40 correct?
  • How do we tour the schools if the deadline for choosing top choices is so near?
  • Question: if my child qualified for citywide can he apply to any district wide g&t or is he limited to a g&t in his district?
  • We are in district 2, and wanted some feedback on schools in district 2 (or even other districts) and chances of him getting offer being at 98th percentile. He doesn’t have sibling, and being at 98 we feel getting into 1st grade is bit difficult given than schools offer very few seats for new 1st graders.
  • I’m interested in the details of the lottery process. Is it done at each school? If so, since each applicant can select multiple schools and there’s an order which shows preference, how is that handled.
    • Based on this year’s numbers, would a 97 percentile child without sibling priority have any chance at all for a citywide G&T program?
    • Would a 97 percentile child without sibling priority have any chance at all for a district gifted program without district priority (program not within the district where the child resides)?

Here’s a good article that answers many of the questions above and more!

Huge mistake parents make
February 2, 2018, 3:19 pm
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Not planning to prep for the OLSAT or NNAT? Huge mistake.

Everyone makes mistakes, right? It’s a big part of what makes us human and being parents. If we were all perfect, life would be a lot more boring (but also a lot easier!).

Unfortunately, as parents, the mistakes we make in raising our children can affect our kids’ quality of life for years to come.  So many parents have told me about the devastating effects of technology.  These are typically parents who let their kids fritter away watching Disney TV non-stop, and playing mindless video games, without so much as glancing at skill-building materials that help keep them fresh on the subjects they learn in school.

Another common story I hear is from parents who failed to adequately prepare their children for the NYC Gifted and Talented or private school entrance exam. Many parents assume that these tests will be super easy and includes simple questions, especially if their children are only 4 or 5 years old. Boy, are these parents wrong; dead wrong. I can’t tell you how many parents have told me after the fact to tell me something along the lines of, “I just assumed the test would cover basic colors and shapes. That’s why it didn’t even occur to me to prepare for the test ahead of time.” Unfortunately, these parents didn’t find programs like Testing Mom before the big test. Many other parents, knowing that their child is extremely bright or possibly even gifted, are confident that they’ll do fine on the test no matter how hard it is. This is yet another big mistake I see time and time again. What these parents don’t realize is that there are a limited amount of seats in NYC for the gifted program and even missing a few questions on the test can cause their child to not qualify for a program when all the other kids score higher. For parents who don’t take preparation seriously, it can be a devastating blow when they get the OLSAT and NNAT-2 test scores back and find out that their child scored well below the level they would need to make it into an advanced program.

Perhaps the most common mistake I see from parents – and one that can actually be the most devastating – isn’t so much a mistake as it is an attitude toward testing and education in general. Many parents have a negative connotation of preparation and of the process that lets their children get into gifted and talented programs. The vast majority of the time, these parents’ attitudes are understandable and many times even commendable. Basically, these parents want to leave their child’s education to “chance” and hope for the best. Typically, these parents are worried that by preparing their kids for a test, they’ll be “taking away their childhood” or even considered “cheating,” since these parents think the test is designed to measure children on an even playing field. What I tell these parents is that, regardless of their personal view on testing and education, testing is here to stay – and so is test prep. Countless other parents across the city are making sure that their children are ready for test day and beyond, by working with their child on a daily basis to make sure they have the skills they need to not only keep up, but soar ahead of their classmates.

Let’s face it, it’s up to YOU to make sure these scenarios don’t play out for your son or daughter. I’m telling you this because I don’t want you to make the same mistakes other parents before you have made. Only you have the power to make sure your child is afforded every opportunity for a stellar education – but you have to put in the effort, and you have to start now. Learn from the mistakes of those parents who have gone before you who didn’t prepare their child for the OLSAT and NNAT-2 tests.  If not you, then who? If not now, then when?

Debunking myths of the NYC Gifted and Talented Program

Well folks, the DOE is debunking all the rumors and innuendos floating around the city about the NYC Gifted and Talented Program. We’re here to set the record straight by debunking myths of the NYC Gifted and Talented Program.

  • There are two type of G&T programs in NYC. TRUE!
    • District G&T programs give an admissions priority to applicants who live in their district. These programs are located within district elementary schools. Citywide G&T programs give no admissions priority based on district of residence and all students in these schools attend the G&T program.
  • Students must take both the OLSAT and NNAT-2 tests to participate in the NYC gifted program. TRUE!
    • If your child attends public kindergarten through second grade, they will take the G&T Test at school during the school day. If your child attends pre-K or non-public school, they can take the G&T Test on one of several weekend dates. Submit the RFT online and early for the best chance to get your preferred test date and location.
  • Students must score a 90th percentile combined score on the NNAT-2 test and OLSAT test to get a G&T application. TRUE!
    • A student who scores 90 or higher can apply for District G&T programs. A student who scores 97 or higher can apply for District and Citywide G&T programs. Make sure you check out free practice questions from programs like Testing Mom! 
  • There is NO guarantee that a student will get a G&T offer letter, regardless of their score. TRUE!
    • G&T programs are so high in demand and usually there are more eligible students than there are seats available. Even at a 99th percentile there are no guarantees.
  • G&T programs give an admissions priority to students with siblings currently enrolled in their programs. TRUE!
    • If your child applies to a G&T program at a school that their sibling attends, they have greater priority to attend that program than applicants without siblings at the school.
  • Only current pre-K through second grade students can participate in the admissions process for the Gifted and Talented Program TRUE!